During a Congressional hearing on ‘LGBTQ Civil Rights’, Human Rights Campaign President Kelley Robinson was unable to answer ‘yes’ or ‘no’ when asked by Senator Ted Cruz if she believes there is any difference between men and women.
Cruz had asked the same question to former University of Kentucky swimmer Riley Gaines, who was present to share her experience of having to competing against and share facilities with transgender swimmer Lia Thomas.
Cruz asked Gaines “as someone who competed at the elite level, in your experiences, is there a difference between women and men?”
Gaines responded, “Of course, I think we learned this at a very young age, watching even 12-and-unders play. Going through puberty causes irreversible advantage that no matter the training, no matter the diet, no matter any alterable change you can make, will overcome that male advantage, especially in sports like swimming, where lung capacity matters so much.”
After speaking with Gaines, Cruz turned to Kelley Robinson, who as head of the HRC recently declared a ‘national state of emergency for LGBTQ Americans,’ and asked “Do you agree with Miss Gaines that there’s a difference between women and men?”
Robinson responded “If the question is about trans women,” prompting Cruz to interject “I’m just asking, is there a difference between women and men?”
Robinson replied “What I can say is that the NCAA has rules in place. They’ve had rules in place for the last decade.”
Cruz tried the question again, stating “No, I’m asking a question. Do you believe there’s a difference between women and men, most people could answer this very simply, I’m curious if you’re willing to do so.”
“I think that there are definitions related to sex,” Robinson said, prompting Cruz to ask “Is that a yes? I’m trying to get a yes or no. I’m not trying to get a speech.”
As we’ve seen before (see below) it’s so simple for conservatives like Cruz to allow these people to instantly discredit themselves during these hearings by asking this simple question and watching them squirm, bug their eyes out and dance around the answer.
Elsewhere during the hearing, Riley Gaines detailed how women were forced to share locker rooms with biological men:
She also spoke about being hated on for speaking out:
Cruz later spoke about the hearing in a Newsmax interview:
The full hearing is below:
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